AverageJoe (user) - rated (ugly feet)2015-01-21 02:58:35
But with that being said, there are a LOT of us users who feel trans feet do not belong in a FEMALE feet appreciation site.
It takes MORE than ONE person to delete comments and pictures. That is a "safety feature" set up with the guild.
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-21 03:41:28
@GHW- We have suggested many ideas about picture reporting, but all have been ignored. The Admin said this gallery was taken out by *one* user with multiple accounts and was done in the 'wee hours' (U.S. Time) so no one noticed in time. He suspended all accounts involved, and will restore the photos eventually, he said.
mercilesstickler (user)2015-01-21 03:46:17
its my opinion that trans pictures should be identified for what they are...if i had my way they wouldnt be on here at all...but since they are here i think they should come with a tag
Grik (user)2015-01-21 03:56:48
Agree! I believe a few of the users here have been fooled by transgenders etc appearing here with no tag, and thinking they are on a FEMALE foot fetish site, it never enters their minds they are gawking at a bloke contrived as a woman, and one can only imagine their embarrassment (and I venture to say, anger) when they discover the truth. I actually believe without a tag, the walls are deception and duplicitous, and take users for granted.
AverageJoe (user)2015-01-21 04:04:36
Agreed on the tagging. Make it so number one!
Templar97 (user)2015-01-21 04:17:09
@Grik- Totally agree. @AJ- It's unfortunate that Captain Piccard will not agree to such a simple and fair compromise.
Chappy (user)2015-01-21 04:19:05
I also agree, it would be nice to know just what gender I'm gawking at as I steadfastly prefer the female form
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-21 05:04:27
@merciless-stickler- I couldn't have said it any better myself, all that you said, but we've fought those battles and lost. We even ran a Guild Poll with overwhelming support for flagging, and those on both sides of the issue supported it, but as @Grik said, it was nixed by Dr. No. So, we try to alert people in each gallery as best we can, and that's about all we can do. "Caveat Emptor." Just like real life.
physdude (user)2015-01-21 06:53:45
So if we are playing the "let's label people game", let's have labels on anyone that is gay, black people, those that have had boob jobs, those that are on drugs etc. Yes Bailey used to be a physical man, but she clearly must feel like a woman hence going through a sex change. She is a woman now so quit your bellyaching. Stop being so against people that are living their lives how they want to live them and being their true selves. Also I have seen the whole "this is a female foot site", where does it say that? On the home page it just says "Celebrity", everywhere else it just says "celebrity". By that I would assume it would be for any famous persons feet. Just stop the hate. With regards to @Grik saying people have been fooled by transgendered people, is that not a good thing as it means that the person in question finally has a body to match their mindset?
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-21 07:04:13
The problem lies in this rule on the home page:
o We only allow opening galleries for women over 17 who are listed on IMDb.
Some here want to make the case that male-to-female transgender 'women' either are or are not 'real' women. Either way, the site owner has made his defense of them very clear, and *his* definition of "women" is this: A gallery may be opened if the individual identifies *as* as woman and is identified as such on IMDb.
@physdude- I hope you're not talking to me, because I'm not hating on anyone. The only reason we wanted to flag those galleries is because they cause so much trouble, mostly *from* haters who accidentally end up in one of them. But I've thought of that and you are correct; your point is well-taken-- it sort of smacks of tattooed numbers on prisoners of war in the 1930s and 40s.
Grik (user)2015-01-21 07:11:44
We only allow opening galleries for women over 17 who are listed on IMDb."
All you bleeding hearts pushing your agendas here, please don't selectively quote bits that only suit your agendas. Can you see the word "women"? Now, the significant minority of users here who happily subscribe to transgenders being here, no big deal. But we have many hundreds of new users who have no idea there are transgenders here. If the site was for real, then the above wording would include transgenders, wouldn't it? As for the rest of what you say Physdude, it's a very shallow argument. Most of us believe a woman means a biological woman; not a medically/chemically conjured one (who may or may not have their appendage still affixed). Personally, I don't give a flying fark the BJ galleries are here - I don't agree in pretending the BJ's of this site are biological women. What a total nonsense to suggest it's how they perceive their gender that counts. If that was the test, RuPaul, a complete male, who dresses as a female, would still be kosher here. So would effeminate campy gay men. And I laugh at the warped, deluded irony of expecting political correctness on a foot fetish site. Ha!
Physdude, this is what it says: "wikiFeet is a collaborative site for sharing, rating and discussing celebrity feet pictures and videos.
iluvgirlsfeet (user) - rated (beautiful feet)2015-01-22 17:25:40
well put sir :D
REVAN™ (user) - rated (bad feet)2015-01-22 17:31:05
Where's Danny DeVito's gallery?
He's not more or less a woman than this fine specimen right here! 😏
@Grik: So damn true.
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-22 17:39:30
What about: Tom Hanks, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Robin Williams, Milton Burle, Don Knotts, Dee Snider, Tim Curry, and many, many more?
54 (user)2015-01-22 17:45:08
Freddie Mercury, Bruce Jenner, Oprah (wait...)
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-22 18:13:02
Bruce is a foregone conclusion. He wanted so badly to 'Keep Up With' the rest of the Klan that he's having... changes made. Now apparently confirmed, as they girls all come out in public support of his... adventure/decision.
ToothpickTorture (user) - rated (ugly feet)2015-01-22 18:37:48
Grik (user)2015-01-22 21:45:39
54, credit where credit is due, that was funny! I predict Bruce Jenner will be here soon. What a sad legacy arising out of living with the Kardashians poor Bruce Jenner is. Gone the full circle from Triathlete to Transgender!
DeadlyPixxxie (user) - rated (beautiful feet)2015-01-22 22:10:44
Either way, you should excuse yourself from here...because it's time. Savvy?
@Grik - I think it's about time for you to take a Wikifeet holiday. From what I've heard, you've been doing your share of preaching. Enough is enough. We know your opinion on this matter & the fact that you're taking potshots at people who differ in opinion from you is one line crossed too many. Either let people have their opinions or don't come on to THIS particular page.
Grik (user)2015-01-22 22:50:03
Darling DP. From "what you've heard" eh?! Chinese whispers exist here, do they? You and Angus privately emailing? You now the self-appointed WikiFeet censor now? I have at all times engaged in honest debate here. I have not belittled anyone, or taken potshots. I've engaged in debate - something you refuse to do. All my comments here have been approved. Have you noticed quite a few here agree with me? What, exactly, is your problem? I'm not the one who maliciously bashed BJ's site up. You are the pontificating preacher here, not me. You pontificate; you do not engage in debate. You refuse to accept any opinion other than your own. Now, if you were in Guild, you will have seen a few days ago that I said I would not be making any further comments here (other than generic ones, like I just did above). Didn't hear that, did you? You did your dandiest to censor me out of existence a year or so ago, cleverly doing your sycophanting best to entice everyone to gang up on me, and when it didn't work, you spit the dummy and depart (for which somehow I still get blamed for, and by the way, a few of your then mates didn't appreciate the way you left them high and dry). Darling DP, get over it!
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-22 23:30:48
@Grik- Not me. Only contact I've had with @DP in months has been on these walls & is mostly still here. She's pushing her own barrow. Leave me out of it. I'm gonna go join @Tweety in Switzerland, or take our submarine to Atlantis.
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-23 08:08:35
I will remind both of you (DP & Grik) that you smoked the peace pipe, and offer my opinion that while Grik continues to stir the pot, he's neither the only nor the worst problem on this particular issue. AND remind him that he stated in GC earlier today that he was 'done' posting on this topic and on this wall, regardless of what anyone else said here.
Lawrence2 (user)2015-01-23 14:12:41
LOL I just read a forum post at the pad that people someone doesn't like Wikifeet because it has become the "Grik and Backinblack60" Page and a few chiming in about what a terrible person our dear @Mr. Hate is. Couldn't disagree with these creatures opinions more.
tweety (guild knight)
- rated (beautiful feet)2015-01-23 14:26:29
@L2 most probably a fellow guilder who for one reason or another doesn't like the 3 mentioned who ever it was I say as you could not disagree more and will have to give a big shout out and Thank-You to them for possibly driving in more people to this site:
Iluvfeet (user)2015-01-23 14:28:52
To them I say, "C ya, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out"
Templar97 (user)2015-01-23 14:32:27
As @tweety said, must be disgruntled members.. Maybe @Dingo or @blueballs?? No, wait.. @blueballs subscribed and worshipped only at the alter of LUCAS. ;)
Lawrence2 (user)2015-01-23 14:42:37
Thanks guys. this is why I disagree with their sentiments that we are not a real community here.
Mr Hate (guild knight)
- rated (ugly feet)2015-01-23 14:56:01
I just don't understand why some folks over on the mousepad think I'm such a terrible person. WTF? ????? boo-hoo!!!! LOL!!!
Templar97 (user)2015-01-23 14:57:40
We do have an interesting (and fairly complex) community here. Men and women from every corner of the earth who collaborate and unite on one common interest: Lovely female feet.
REVAN™ (user) - rated (bad feet)2015-01-23 15:03:13
@Templar97: "Lovely female feet" - what a lovely thing to post on a *man's* wall, underneath a *man's* gallery. 😉
Templar97 (user)2015-01-23 15:14:30
@REVAN- Honestly, I don't pay much attention to the galleries themselves when I'm approving/rejecting comments. I sort of drift through unaware. Either way, I think most people come her for the *real* female feet.
toeloverforever (user)2015-01-23 15:21:14
Yes indeed @Temp
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-23 15:36:32
1) Seriously, how can you *not* love Mr Hate???
2) Ditto for me, whatever they said, and it sounds familiar.
3) I imagine Grik is crying crocodile tears as well.
@Lawrence2- Thanks, if that also included me and not just Mr Hate!
@T97- Same here on both counts. I only come to these walls to approve comments & don't see the pics much or at all (never enlarged). I'm here for cis-gender, natural-born & bred female feet. But it doesn't both me that we have users who enjoy this, and I can choose to ignore even pending comments here if I wish to avoid the gallery.
@Mr Hate>"I just don't understand why some folks over on the mousepad think I'm such a terrible person. WTF? ????? boo-hoo!!!! LOL!!!"
Toelvr (user) - rated (beautiful feet)2015-01-23 15:46:44
lets stop the BS and drama, the clicks and the manipulation, its not HS. Im here too see the sexy feet and toes if your not maybe you should be somewere else.
Pinchy69 (trusted uploader)2015-01-23 15:47:14
Firstly I do think it has been (so far at least) been well balanced in its comparative and that there seems to be a consensus among their members that content-wise Wikifeet is very good, which it obviously is. One person (perhaps one of many) states that they come here to see new sets first, BEFORE going to boards and fansites...to me that says it all really, so much so that nothing I read there would so far encourage me to frequent the pad for pics. I have never visited that site that I can remember.
Secondly it must be said that Eli in numerous FC's has said that for him content is king and social interactivity is second, but that he has plans to enhance that aspect here. Perhaps the social side of things there is better than here, I can't say as I don't go there. Once Eli enhances sociability here then let us judge it fairly.
Thirdly, with what I said above re Wikifeet winning the content battle and wondering why that might be, perhaps the answer lies in the fact that many in the Guild, I count myself in here are more critical of loaded content and might try to channel others to upload as best as possible. Some might take that as being domineering or bossy or rude, but listen, we're all big boys and girls here and should look past a criticism if it is leveled and wonder why it was, rather than jump ship and feel that you don't fit in. We are a community here with seemingly more of a quality content driven ethos than the pad IMO. And as for the members that were discussed there (@Hate, @BiB and @Grik) fair play to our boys for being remembered enough to be mentioned, they've all contributed well here, sure they've all had the odd blow-out, big deal, everyone has some time or other, it's good to have characters in your team man.
Lastly, I do agree that Wikifeet isn't perfect *yet*, the restriction on which celebs can be shown here (IMBD-dependency) is my biggest gripe, and again perhaps the pad is better on that front, kudos to them if they are, nonetheless, I am quite happy to sit pretty here.
A few things stand out to me having read that post.
BackInBlack60 (guild knight)2015-01-23 15:57:09
Since we're discussing it here on a wall, I'll cross-post what I just said in chat:
@Larry- Interesting Thread @the Pad; some valid points made, and also some misinformation/disinformation or people who haven't really been 'inside' here much lately, as the info is outdated.
I'll also add that I found some of the criticisms of Wikifeet to be ones which many former & current Pad users come here and complain about over there, so perhaps it's a bit myopic or even hypocritical (albeit valid on both boards). Neither is perfect by any stretch of the imagination.
First of all, @P69... well said on all points.
Grik (user)2015-01-23 19:58:38
Pinchy, as usual, well thought out and said. I don't go to that other site. I've casually been to a few other sites and WikiFeet, to me, is the superior product. And I think the competition likes to snipe and disparage us to boost their stocks. Ain't gonna work! Finally, I am honoured to be mentioned in the same breath as Angus and Hateness